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St Phillips Anglican Church, Andersons Creek Road, Deep Creek

Deep Creek Church of England (St. Phillip's Anglican Church) Anderson's Creek Road, Deep Creek was built in 1907 on land donated by Henry Pump, and moved in the 1970's to Blackburn Road near Reynolds Road. This photo shows the church on its original site. DP0596







St Phillips, Deep Creek (History Parish Holy Trinity Anglican Doncaster Uebergang 1997 p72


St Philips Church
St Philip's was opened in Anderson Creek Road on 11 November 1906 by Archdeacon Crossley and moved to current site in 1980. New name adopted at the new site. More historical information/photographs of the church/congregation are invited. Photographs uploaded 30/5/2014.




St Philips Church

St Phillip's Church was located on land donated by the Pump family, and was situated on the east side of Anderson's Creek Rd, approximately due east of following the direction from where Porter St ceased at Blackburn Rd. Opposite the S/E cnr of Prowse Reserve at approx 218 Anderson's Creek Rd. I attended Sunday School there in the mid/late 60's.

Source: Craig Martin writing on Facebook June 2017




Porter St - Google Maps  Downloaded 2023





Locality Plan - Deep Creek Church of England (St. Phillips Anglican Church) Anderson's Creek Road. Reference:  Extract from 1945 aerial photograph, part of Maps Collection Melbourne 1945 PhotoMaps, University of Melbourne - downloaded March 2023.




Vol 2476 Fol 164 is for the Pump land and in which on page 2 it notes owner Henry Pump transfers part of the land on 27th December 1906 to "The Church of England Trust Corporation for the Diocese of Melbourne". Source:  PROV No reference or link possible. Obtained 15Mar2022.


Vol 3155 Fol 024 is the land title for the transferred part of land on 27th September 1906 into the name of "The Church of England Trust Corporation for the Diocese of Melbourne of Swanson Street Melbourne”.  On page 2 of the title, "The Mayor Councillors and Citizens of the City of Doncaster and Templestowe" became the registered proprietor on 29 September 1982.  Source:  PROV No reference or link possible. Obtained 15Mar2022.


The article also notes that St Philip's was opened in Anderson Creek Road on 11 November 1906 by Archdeacon Crossley.  The Reporter (Box Hill) newspaper on Friday 9 November 1906 includes reference to the opening:
The Ven. Archdeacon Crossley, M.A., will open St. Phillip's church, Deep Creek, East Doncaster, next Sunday, at 3 p.m. The archdeacon will also preach at Holy Trinity, Doncaster, in the even-ing at 7.30 p.m.
1906 'Croydon Brass Band.', The Reporter (Box Hill, Vic. : 1889 - 1925), 9 November, p. 7. , viewed 25 Mar 2023, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article92816937 




The book: "Holy Trinity Anglican Church Doncaster Victoria - “The Church that stood among the orchards” compiled by Eric Ubergang and Mary Plumb 1997" references St Phillip’s Deep Creek (East Doncaster) Anglican Church:
St Phillip’s Deep Creek (East Doncaster).
In 1906 a group of orchardists felt the need for a local church. They gathered a meeting together on the 24th September, 1906 along with the vicar of Holy Trinity Doncaster, Rev. A.R. Raymond. The residents of Deep Creek met at Mr Peter-Budge’s home on 24 September 1906 to form a committee with the desire of erecting a church wherein Divine Service and Sunday school could be held .
The next meeting was held on 1 October 1906.  Mr Speers’ tender of 77 pounds was accepted - the date of completion to be 4 November 1906.  The contract was signed by Committee members AR Raymond, J Pump, H Pump, H Uebergang, L Peter-Budge,  G. Schafter and C Aumann.  The land on Andewrsons Creek Road was given by Mr H Pump and a church was built in 5 weeks at a cost of 100 pounds, 13 shillings ($201.13)
The church was a simple rectangular building with a high pitched roof and a small entrance porch at the front. The walls are constructed of timber weatherboards the roof of corrugated iron roof
The book at back I think referenced another book - “St Phillips Deep Creek 1906-1980” - compiled by members of the Ladies Guild.


A Brief History of the St. Phillips, Church of England, Deep Creek

Before the latter part of 1906, there was no church at Deep Creek and parishioners felt the need of a local church.
Reverend A. R. Raymond who was vicar of Holy Trinity, Doncaster, had plans and specifications of a small church which he had been instrumental in building and which was suitable for a church at Deep Creek.
He was asked to make enquiries re the cost of such a building. On 24th September, 1906, a meeting was held at the home of Mr. L. Peter-Budge, Reverend Raymond was chairman. Also present were Messrs. J. Pump, H. Pump, L. Peter-Budge, H. Pickering, R. Buck and Charles Aumann of Christ Church, Templestowe, who was elected secretary pro tem.
The chairman reported that he had received a tender from Mr. J. Speers for £82. However, at this stage, the committee of orchardists had no funds and it was felt that £82 was a lot of money. Mr. Speers was asked to submit another tender and to reduce his price by substituting a different class of timber.
The next meeting was held on 1st October 1906. Mr. Speers' new tender of £77 was accepted - the date of completion to be 4th November 1906. The contract was signed by Mr. J. Speers and committee members A. R. Raymond, J. Pump, H. Pump, H. Uebergang, L. Peter-Budge, G. Schafter and C. Aumann - the church to be built on land given by Mr. H. Pump for that purpose.
At this meeting, the Reverend Raymond promised a donation of £10 towards the cost of the building, provided the committee collected a similar amount. They were able to be this and the Building Fund commenced with £20.
Mr. J. Pump was elected treasurer, a position he held until 1932.
Before the 4th November, the date on which the building was to be completed, the committee decided on several extras, including the front porch, so that the total cost of the building was £100/13/0. It was insured for £100.
Mr. Speers must have had good weather and worked long hours. The church was completed on 4th November - the stipulated date.
It had been decided by the committee "that should there be any balance after all necessary items in connection with the church had been provided that a bonus be paid to Mr. Speers in recognition of the conscientious manner in which he had erected the building." He was paid a bonus of £3/10/0.
The first service was held on 11th November 1906 at 3 p.m. and the preacher was Archdeacon Crossley. A social evening was held on 16th November. Miss Mandy was the first organist and the average number of persons attending the services was forty.
It was typical of the people of that time, that having made up their minds to build a church, they lost no time in doing so and collecting the money to pay for it. Only five weeks had elapsed since the contract was signed and the building was opened on the proposed date free of debt. The parishioners must have been justly proud of their effort.
Mr. Charles Aumann and Mr. H. Pump were appointed to collect the offertory on that first Sunday. A great many people must have been present. The offertory was £7/10/0, threepence or sixpence was the usual offertory in those days.
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P2.
Building Fund Balance Sheet 1906: -
Donations:
From Diocesan Fund £20 0 0
From Christ Church Templestowe 5 0 0
Other donations 91 3 0
Offertory 7 10 0
£123 10 3
Cost of Building £100 13 0
Bonus to Builder 3 10 0
Paint 2 15 0
Organ 10 0 0
Church and Sunday
School Requisites 5 4 0
Insurance 0 14 6
Balance 0 13 9
£123 10 3
The Building Fund was closed and the balance of 13/9 was added to general funds of 1907.
The first general balance sheet was as follows: -
Receipts
Offertory 18th Nov.,1906 
to 21st Dec., 1906 £4 13 7
Sale of fruit 0 14 0 
£5 7 7
Expenditure
Stipend £4 13 7
Sundries 0 2 6
Balance 0 11 6
£5 7 7
After the opening of the church, the committee became the Guardians. Mr. L. Peter-Budge became secretary and he held that position until 1911.
A few cherry trees grew in the church ground. The fruit was sold and the money was paid into general funds.
For many years, until it was possible to make an annual contribution to stipend funds, it was usual to give the whole of the offertory to the clergy as St. Philips held towards the stipend except when the offertory was for some special fund.
St. Philipps has never been in debt but sometimes the credit balance at the end of the year has been very small. 1917 - one penny, 1919 – seven pence, 1926 - threepence.
If money was required for some job, the parishioners supplied it, but a great deal was done by voluntary labour - cleaning the church, keeping the ground in order, doing repairs and sometimes painting the church.
A table, two chairs, cups and saucers were presented to the church by Mr. and Mrs. H. Uebergang. For many years it was usual for Mrs. Uebergang to be in charge of the tea or coffee making at any social event.
1907. Some members of St. Philip's travelled to church by horse-drawn vehicle. It was decided to build a stable 16 ft. × 9 ft. containing three stalls. A collection from parishioners amounted to £5.19.0, enough to pay for materials, and it was erected by voluntary labour. It proved to be a very convenient place in which swagmen would camp the night, and "Old Mary" a woman swaggie who often roamed through Deep Creek and the surrounding district, would also use it on occasions. 
At the annual meeting in January 1908, Reverend Raymond appointed Messrs. J. Pump and G. Schafter to be his representatives and the people's representatives were Messrs. I. Pump, H. Uebergang, E. Zerbe, W. Aumann, W. Heitch and L. Peter-Budge.

Messrs. J. Pump and L. Peter-Budge were elected to represent the (cont. p3)
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P3.
Guardians at the "Conference of Parishioners" with power to act. Messrs. Pump and E. Zerbe were appointed to collect the offertory during the year.
In 1911, Mr. E. Zerbe became secretary - a position he held until his resignation in 1947.
From 1911, Guardians became known as church-wardens and vestrymen. 
Reverend Hennell who has succeeded Reverend Raymond, left the parish and the new vicar was Reverend Peterson. He came in 1913 - and married during his ministry at Doncaster. There is probably more than one small boy (and girl, too) of that time who remembers the lovely hat worn by Mrs. Peterson on her first visit to St. Philips.
Nearly eight years had passed since the church was built, and it needed painting. The vestry decided that if enough money could be collected and a painter found who would do the job for a reasonable price, that he be asked to be the painting, otherwise the vestry would have to do the painting themselves.
Enough money was collected and Mr. Willis painted the church three coats £8/14/0 and outbuildings two coats £1/5/0, a total of £9/19/0.
For several years Mr. J. Pump took the fruit brought to Harvest Festival to Austin Hospital. It has also been given to Blind Institute and St. John's Home at Canterbury, but for many years Mr. H. Schafter has delivered it to Broughton Home for Elderly Ladies.
Early in 1918, Reverend Peterson suggested to the vestrymen "that they would be wise to make a beginning of gathering means for the purpose of erecting a hall to be used as a Sunday School and for any social occasions."
After a great deal of discussion, the matter was dropped. It was not until 1944 that serious consideration was given to building a hall.
1921, and the vestry discussed fencing the church ground. Mr. H. Pump was asked to make enquiries re cost of a "front picket fence leaving out the two gate posts". Evidently the vestrymen were able to supply the gate posts.
No final decision was made regarding the fence until a year later and then the decision was "for an angle rail fence with plain wire below and including one pair of double gates",
In 1925, the retable, brass cross, and vases were dedicated by Reverend Durance.
There was no drinking water at the church. Mr. H. Pump would provide a bucket of water from his underground tank each Sunday and stand it in the porch. If a social event was held, he would bring water, copper and stand to the church ground so that the water could be boiled to make the tea or coffee. 
In the year 1926, Mr. W. Aumann donated a water-tank and Mr. J. Pump erected it. The tank was in use for many years and although water was later available from the main, it was not until the tank was damaged in 1944, that water was connected to the church.
A row of Cypress trees was planted along the front fence in 1932, and in 1937 Mr. and Mrs. E. Zerbe presented a new organ to the church.
1944. Shelves erected in the porch on which to place hymn and prayer books were donated by Mr. G. Dunnett and Mr. H. Zerbe gave a Hymn-board in memory of his wife.
In 1944, it was felt that the time had come when thought should be given to the building of a hall. A fund-raising committee was formed, members of which were Misses A. Aumann, M. Aumann, P. Pump, J. Mahoney, E. Schafter (cont. p4)
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P4.
and Messrs. H. Zerbe, H. Schafter, A. Pump and W. Peter-Budge.
Mr. G. Dunnett joined the committee in 1946 in place of Miss Pump who left the district after her marriage and Mr. R. Thiele was elected in place of Miss A. Aumann on her resignation.
Social evenings were held in a number of homes, also Euchre parties. Several very successful fetes were held. A legacy of £250 was received from Estate of S. Whitten and many others gave donations. Funds gradually increased but it was not until 1955 that the hall was built.
Electricity was connected to the church in 1948 and light shades were given by R. Clay and H. Schafter.
In that year, a junior branch of the Girls' Friendly Society was formed under the leadership of Misses M. Aumann, and E. Schafter. Later, Miss Shirley Smith became a leader. An admission service was held on 27th June 1948 by Reverend Tom Thomas. As the church was the only place in which meetings could be held, the vestry gave permission for a curtain to be bought to enable the altar to be closed off on meeting nights, which sometimes took the form of recreation.
In 1952, a carpet for the sanctuary was donated by Mrs. W. Aumann, and electric light for the vestry by Mr. A. Pump.
The Ladies' Guild was formed in 1953 by Reverend A. A. Roberts with a membership of seventeen, but for several years the average membership has been thirty. The Guild has provided many amenities for the church.
A parishioners' meeting was held on 20th June 1955 to discuss the advisability of making a start on the hall building. Several people spoke of visits they had made to Sunday School halls and many interesting ideas were discussed.
A building committee of five was elected, Messrs. R. G. White, H. Schafter, L. Adams, Mrs. R. G. White and Mrs. H. White. This committee was distinct from the fund-raising committee.
Another meeting was held on 18th July 1955. It was decided to build a hall and have it completed at the earliest possible date. The contract was let to Mr. Spencer. Much help was given by Mr. Robert White and it was due to his efforts that the plans were passed and stamped in a very short time, thus enabling the building to be commenced.
It was opened free of debt and dedicated on 30th October 1955.
After Reverend A. Roberts had read the Archbishop's Licence granting permission to dedicate the hall, the Rural Dean of Hawthorn, Reverend Tidmarsh, conducted the Dedication service at which 130 people were present.
On that same Sunday, a new Altar Frontal given by Misses Aumann in memory of their mother, Mary Christina Aumann, was dedicated. After the service afternoon tea was provided by the Ladies' Guild.
The cost of the hall was £1521/12/10. Mr. Spencer had built it at no profit. Two parishioners gave voluntary service each working day. Thanks were due to Mr. N. McRury for electrical installation and Mr. J. Lee for plumbing and drainage.
During the ministry of Reverend Simondson, eight film services were held. These proved to be very popular.
The fiftieth anniversary of the church was celebrated on 11th November 1956 at 3 p.m.. Reverend Simondson, Reverend Roberts, Mr. Mai (lay reader (cont. p5)


P5.
for many years) were present and the preacher was Archdeacon Williams.
Several people present remembered that service of fifty years earlier and some had been baptized at the first baptismal service.
In 1959 Freewill Offertory envelopes were introduced and several of the congregation used them.
New pews built by W. Holly were presented to St. Philips by the Ladies' Guild and dedicated by Reverend J. Ryan on 19th December 1960.
The fifth Sunday of any month was originally Guild Sunday but for some years has been Family Service Sunday when parents, children and others attend service in the hall - the church would not accommodate the congregation which usually numbers sixty or more.
It is not possible to name all those who have been connected with the church, but the following people have at some time served on the vestry some of them for many years. Messrs. J. Pump, H. Pump, H. Uebergang, W. Heitch, G. Schafter, E. Zerbe, J. Sell, W. Aumann, L. Peter-Budge, V. Johnston, S. Maggs, E. Aumann, H. Zerbe, T. Buck, H. Aumann, H. Schafter, W. Peter-Budge, A. Pump, F. Aumann, Max Aumann, Arthur Peter-Budge, Alf Peter- Budge, E. Cruickschank, R. Clay, I. Peter-Budge, R. Thiele, K. Bethel, A. Mahoney.
Women were elected to the vestry in 1956 and members were Misses M. Aumann, G. Aumann, Mrs. N. Brooke, Mrs. H. Schafter.
Sixty years have passed since the church was built. The congregation is smaller than in those early days. The pioneers of the church have passed on, families are smaller, girls have married and left the district and subdivision has not yet taken place in Deep Creek.
Organists Secretaries Treasurers
Miss V. Munday 1906 Mr. C. Aumann 1906 Mr. J. Pump 1906
Miss N. Playle Mr. L. Peter-Budge 1907 Mr. W. Peter-Budge 1932
Miss H. Pump Mr. E. Zerbe 1911 Mr. E. Cruickshank 1952
Miss A. Aumann 1924 Mr. A. Pump 1947 Mr. Ivan Peter-Budge 1954
Mr. M. Aumann 1960 Mr. A. Pump 1955
Mr. H. Schafter 1957

St Phillips Sunday School

The first Sunday School classes were held on 18th November 1906, under the direction of Mr. Charles Aumann.  He was in charge for a short time until Mr. Harry Pump became superintendent. Many years later he was succeeded by Mr. Ernest Zerbe, and on his resignation in 1947, Miss Mary Aumann became superintendent. The children who attended on that first Sunday were: - Mabel Budge, Ida Speers, Alice Pump, Elsie Speers, Emma Zerbe, Martha Zerbe, Esther Pump, Hilda Uebergang, Hilda Pump, Chrissie Gowty, Emma Uebergang, Bertha Zerbe, Gladys Reid, Edie Gowtry, Reginald Budge, Hubert Schafter, Gottlob Schafter, Edgar Budge, Arthur Budge, Frank Pump, Harry Schafter, William Budge, Otto Schafter, Harold Smith, Clifford Smith, Leslie Smith, Reggie Bradley.
Shortly after the following were enrolled: - Oswald Zerbe, Tom Buck, Frederic Pimp, Ida Pump, Herbert Aumann, Eric Aumann, Amy Reid, Audrey Bradley, Amy Smith, Tottie Hardidge, Ernest Schafter, George Buck.
(by) Stella M. Schafter.

Source: an undated typed 6-page typed document DTHS archives. Prepared by Mrs Stella Schafter sometime before her death in 1972.  Stella was the wife of Harry Schafter.  Harry was the son of Gottlob Schafter - one of the original church committee members responsible for the construction of the church in 1906. Stella and her husband Harry had a long association with the church . Transcribed November 2023






The Toll house at the corner of Doncaster and Elgar Roads

Tolls

In the 1860’s, when Roads Boards were faced with miles of unmade, often impassable, roads with grossly inadequate finance and facilities, Districts were given authority to charge tolls for traffic passing between districts.
A Toll Gate was placed across Doncaster Road at the junction of Elgar Road in 1866. The toll was most unpopular. Later the gate was move to the corner of High Street, as many were avoiding the gate by crossing paddocks.
Tolls did not last long and were abolished after a few years. A stone from the Templestowe quarry has been placed in the Thompson Reserve opposite the position of the gate in Doncaster Road.

Extract from Irvine Green writing in 1978 02 DTHS Newsletter

The Toll house at the corner of Doncaster and Elgar Roads

In November 1869, the Doncaster the Toll Gate was moved from Doncaster Corner to the bridge over Kennedy's Creek.

Extract from 1969 11 DTHS Newsletter

The Toll House DTHS DP0248


Toll Gate Plaque

In December, representatives of the Society attended the unveiling of a monument on the Maroondah Highway. The Cairn in Hughes Park, North Croydon, was erected by the Croydon Historical Society to commemorate the site of the Old Toll Gate. The stone forming the cairn came from the Doncaster Templestowe City Quarry.

1975 02 DTHS Newsletter

Commemorative Stone at Site of Toll Gate (1976 08 DTHS Newsletter). Needs research: Need text from plague.  Need photos of current location (removed ??)


Toll House

The toll house at the corner of Doncaster and Elgar Roads at the rear of Lauers store. Built in 1866 for the purpose of collecting toll money from the drivers of horse-drawn vehicles, it was originally situated at Tullys corner, the corner now occupied by Doncaster Shoppingtown.

After tolls were abolished, the building was acquired by Spencer, a blacksmith, and moved to the south-east corner of Doncaster and Elgar Roads (at one time known as Toll Lane), where it remained until it was demolished about 1969.

Kay Mack writing in The DTHS Facebook Page, Apr2017


YesterYear - Toll gate dispute

Picture: the triangular intersection diagonally opposite Shoppingtown when there was a toll gate in 1865, as it was in 1910.

The triangular plot diagonally opposite Doncaster Shoppingtown, the apex of the three part intersection of Doncaster, Elgar and Tram roads which until built on recently was the J. Thomson Reserve, was once the scene of wild altercations.
A plaque on a stone memorial there tells that this was the site of Doncaster's toll gate, established in 1865. At the time of the toll gate, Tram Rd did not exist and Doncaster Rd ran only as far as Church Rd.
In all, the district had only six miles (four kilometres) of formed roads: two miles 21 chains in Doncaster Rd; three miles 21 chains in Templestowe; and 35 chains in Thompsons Rd.
A gate was put across Doncaster Rd and a full-time, 24 hours a day, toll-keeper lived on the spot, which was at the time part of the property of Mr Thomas Tully.
The aim of the toll gate was to help the Templestowe Roads District Board to pay for further road construction, by collecting money from every traveller who passed that way, and for every animal with that traveller.
Carts, buggies and their horses were frequently stuck in ruts on the dreadfully boggy, soggy roads and revenue was badly needed to get the roads board out of a financial rut.
But when the toll gate opened it brought more trouble for the board, for a popular new sport came into vogue: evasion of the toll. The players, in three or four horse-drawn carts, would rush the toll gate together so that the keeper was lucky if he caught one of them.
Prices extracted from travellers were: sheep, pigs, lambs and goats, eight a penny; ox or head of beef cattle, a half penny; horse, mare, ass or mule, a penny ha'penny; gig, chaise, coach or chariot or other carriage constructed on springs if drawn by one horse or other animal, threepence; two horses, sixpence, with threepence each additional horse or animal; cart, dray or wagon with tyres not exceeding six inches, sixpence with threepence each additional horse.
Travellers in government service, ministers of religion or residents going to church were exempt from payment.
It was costly to take peaches to such during a dull sermon - the toll keeper declared them marketable goods and demanded full toll for the church-bound vehicle.
Templestowe graziers evaded the toll by driving their cattle across unfenced land.
Needless to say, here the toll keeper's business ran at a loss. So in 1869 the gate was moved to near the present freeway entrance, where Doncaster Rd crosses the Koonung Creek, and the problems of road tax collection was shared with the neighbouring parish of Booroondara.
A move by the Templestowe District Roads Board to have a toll at the corner of Thompsons and Templestowe roads was defeated by the petition of residents who pleaded hardship.
To the almost bankrupt board, which only wanted to keep the residents in communication with the outside world, this pleas seemed unwarranted.
When a commissioner of roads and bridges requested a report on the amount of road construction carried out, the Templestowe Roads Board had to reply that it did not have any funds.

Source: Doncaster and Templestowe News p.38 - Wednesday, August 19, 1992





044 1981-03-18 Toll Gates ByWays DoncasterMirror. Needs proofreading

March 18, 1981 ByWays of Local History by JOAN SEPPINGS WEBSTER "A GIG, chaise, coach or chariot or other carriage constructed on springs drawn by one horse or other animal " ... the vehicle drawn fits this description. It stands across the part of Doncaster Rd., where a toll-gate would have stopped it for 3 pence in 1866. THE oasis of green atop Doncaster Hill diagonally opposite Shoppingtown and known as the d. Thomson Reserve was once a scene of wild altercations. This is now the apex of the three-part intersection of Doncaster, Elgar and Tram Rds., but at the time Tram Rd., did not exist. And Doncaster Rd., ran east only as far as Church Rd. In all. the district had only six miles of formed roads: three miles 21 chains Templestowe Rd., two miles 21 ch., in Doncaster Rd., and Thompsons Rd. ch. in New Year's Day 1866, marked the beginning of a new and controversial era on vhat 1S now hat vati is Son. Aster's hat day astory a toll gate pened was on what then Thomas Tully's operty, A full-time (24 hrs a day) I-keeper lived on the spot and residene ster toll date and 1877 for 24 pounds. The Templestowe District Roads Board, (forerunner of the municipal council), was in a financial rut, it appears, and persuaded the Boroon-dara Roads Board (which included Camberwell) to put the toll site here, not at the Kennedys (now Koonung) Creek crossing in Doncaster Road in the hope of acquiring much needed revenue. Revenue was needed not only to get the board out of a financial rut but to help its operations. horses and The carts, buggies were getting in literal ruts on the dreadful boggy, soggy roads. When opened the toll gate was there were more troubles. A popular new sport came into vogue: Evasion of the toll. The players, in three four-horse or drawn carts, would rush the gates of the toll together and the toll- keeper was lucky to catch one of them. Prices extracted by the toll-keeper from travellers were: sheep, pigs, lambs and goats - eight a penny; ox or head of beef cattle . half penny; horse, mule LalC, • 1½d; gig, ass chaise, coach or chariot carriage or other springs, constructed on if drawn one horse or other animal - 3d; two horses - 6d, and 3d each additional horse of animal; cart, dray or wagon - 6d; and 3d for each additional horse, with tyres not exceeding six inches. Those government service, ministers of religion or residents going to church were exempt from paying. It was costly to take peaches to suck during a dull sermon. The toll-keeper declared demanded the demander ete e goods and for the vehicle, even though it was going to church. Templestowe graziers evaded the toll by driving their herds of cattle across untenced land on what was then known as the Carlton Estate and also known as Unwins Special Survey Templestowe District Roads Board to have a toll at the corner of Thompsons and Templestowe Roads was defeated by the petition of residents who pleaded hardship To the almost bankrupt board, which only wanted to keep the residents communication outside with 1n world, this the plea seemed unwarranted. When a Commissioner of Roads an d Bridges requested a report on the amount of road construction carried by the Templestowe District Roads Board it had to reply that it did not have any funds  




The Toll house at the corner of Doncaster and Elgar Roads

Needs text extract from links and harvard references

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/198657541

https://blogs.slv.vic.gov.au/such-was-life/victorias-intercolonial-exhibition-1866/

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/5845229

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/5808423?searchTerm=doncaster%20elgar%20road%20toll%20house

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/5781931

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/70083638?afterLoad=showCorrections


Sabbath School, Doncaster

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/89086473?searchTerm=The%20sabbath%20School%20templestowe%201913







The Sabbath School, Doncaster

 The sabbath School ???  When ? Who ??  Which church ??


Pottery lid from a pottery item

Pres. to Mrs. W Ross as a mark of esteem from the scholars and parents Pres. Sabbath School. Templestowe 1913.   Image provided by Leanne Novley in 2024

  • Possibly, Mrs W Ross was the wife of William (Bill) who lived in Newmans Road, and she may have been a daughter of David Smith of Holyrood Farm,  now known as Westerfolds Park.
  • Mrs William John Ross was the owner of property on the north west side of Newmans Road, about midway between Porter Street and Websters Road.  Ken believes that her maiden name was Emma Smith, daughter of John Smith of Templestowe (butcher) and his wife Emma (probably Emma Hewish). 
  • Mrs Emma Ross died on 24 December 1944 and probate of her will was granted to William John Ross of Main Road, Templestowe (orchadist), probably her son. 
  • Ken believes that her husband, William John Ross, died on 11 March, 1938 and probate of his will was granted to Eileen Flack of Templestowe, spinster. 
  • Ken suspects that Mrs Emma Ross had a sister named Jane Ann Fox who lived at Kanumbra, Victoria who died on 27 August, 1921 and letters of administration of her estate was granted to Timothy Creighton Fox of Kanumbra, farmer. Ken also suspects that Mrs Emma Ross had another sister who was Mrs Jennet Rebecca Grass of Trentham, Victoria. 
  • Ken further suspects that these married ladies had an unmarried sister named Agnes Smith of Templestowe who died on 3 October, 1942 and probated of her will was also granted to Timothy Creighton Fox of Kanumbra, Victoria (grazier).
  • Ken believes that they had a brother named George Henry Smith who lived at Templestowe and was also a butcher, who died on 9 September 1946 and probate of his will was granted to Margaret Younger Smith of Main Road, Templestowe, widow.  
  • Ken has also found that John Smith, the presumed father of Emma Ross died on 3 December 1902. Probate of his will was granted on 16 February 1903 to Alexander Hall Alexander, he lived at Packington Street, Kew, gentleman and James Hewish of Croydon (store keeper). John Smith’s widow, Emma Smith (probably nee Hewish) died on 16 August 1919. 
  • Most of the Smith and Ross families are buried in the Templestowe Cemetery in the Presbyterian section.
  • In the book, “Fruit of the Spirit” (see full text on this website) the Ross family is specifically mentioned on pages 26 & 27. It states that “William and Emma Ross were presented with a Teachers Bible in 1895 in recognition of their long service as Sunday School teachers, so it is quite possible that they were founding teachers in the Sunday school in 1895”.  
  • On page 25 it is mentioned that Emma Ross, daughter of John and Emma (nee Hewish) Smith was organist, Sunday School teacher, and a Presbyterian Womens‘ Missionary Union (PWMU) Vice President for many years. 
  • Another daughter, Agnes Smith, who never married, was also active in the congregation. It was Emma Smith senior who gave the land in 1895 for the erection of the original weatherboard church. (Ed. Which church ???)

Source: Ken Smith, DTHS Researcher

Letters from World War I

Letters from some record in DTHS archives possibly not accessioned transcribed by Marion McNeil in 2023.  Need to find and scan originals and try to identify source,

Page 1 Letter 2 France. Oct 15th 1916

Mr Goodson

Dear Sir
Just line or two to let you know that I am well as this leaves me at present & I hope that you are the same So far I have only had the one letter from you but I hope that I will get some more from you I am still in action over here but on a quite front after what we had on the So??? This place that we are in now will do me for the winter as the winter here will hit us pretty hard as I have not had any cold for over two years now but a the present it is very cold over here now plenty of rain & mud & we have all been issued with rubber boot that come up to the thigh & and they keep out the water & the cold 
By the time that you get this letter it will be Christmas & it will be hot over there but we will have a real Christmas among the snow but any rate I wouldn’t mind to be home among the frut I have not had a decent bit of fruit since I left home but that is something to look forward too I have not been to “ Blighty” yet but I expect to get there on leave any day As I write this the Huns are trying hard to ??? down on one of our earoplains but without siccess I will close now Remember me to all at Doncaster
I remain. Your old pupil

Ken Graham

(over page ) 
I wish you A Merry Christmas and A Happy New Year.



France Sunday 28th
Dear Mr. Goodson

I suppose that you have already got my letter and cards from London. I hope
so because I have heard that a lot of our mail was lost. I am having a good time here : We are living
in tents and are camped just near the sea only a few miles south of Bolougne. I am not permitted to
tell you the name of the place but you will have a fair idea.
The French villages are very dirty the pigsty & fowlyard is between the front door and the road . Pigs & fowls use the houses just as much as the people.
Time will not permit me to give a lengthy description of the places however when I see you all I hope to be able to tell you all about them.
It is very cold here. 19 degrees of frost last Thursday . Some cold eh? I heard today that a man was (page 2 ) found frozen to death. The days are so beautifully sunny -it is too cold for clouds to be in the sky was the explanation I got. I have met several Doncaster boys - Ashby Hardidge for one. In fact Ashby came over in the same boat as I did.  Hullo there’s “ fall in “ I must stop Expect to be going up to firing line in a day or two

Best wishes to all
Thos Kent





25th September.  Salisbury Plains.
Pte A.J. Hardidge.  Head .Quarters.  3rd AustralianPioneer Batt. AiF. 3rd Division, On active Service 

Dear Mr. Goodson
I now take the pleasure of writing you a few lines, I was very pleased to hear that you received the cards I sent from Cape Town   We had a splendid trip over, and what I have seen of England is very pretty, London is a wonderful place   I have just about been all over London it is what I call a double City   There seems to me to be as many people under the ground as on top, they have under ground trains, witch they call Tube’s. The people seemed to me to be very lazy one time, they go from one platform to another in lifts or moveing stairs.   I forget what the right name of  them, but you either stand one the top step,and they take you to the bottom or top & one has to be careful how they step off
I put in some time watching the people go up and down, if they don’t take you down quick enough you can walk down or up, I seen a lot of Australians step off with the wrong foot, & then the both feet would go from under them & Well Mr Goodson it would take me some time to tell you all, but this will give you some ida,I also went up the London Tower, & all the great places ,& by going into all these places you can see from the oldest history. I will now tell a little bit about the people in England. I think we were all lost from when we got off the train at Waterloo till we made up our minds to find our places we were stoping at   if we asked anybody were a serton place was they would stand and think for a long while & say I realy don’t know.   The John’s are the only one’s that can tell you anything, I have been talking to plenty of people that don’t live so very far out from London & and they have never seen London. The English People make to mutch of wee  Aust. And it seems to me if we speak to them, they think it’s a honnor. The people don’t seem to take any notice of any other soldier but a Australian. I think most of the girls are looking for a trip to Australia as they say it .
They talk about it takes 3 English soldier’s to make one Australian, well it takes 12 girls to make a one Aust-girl. England is a wonderful place, the old Dart as we call it. But the young Dart for mine. We are about two Hours & a half ride in the train from London, & twenty four hours trip to the front. I have meet a lot of chaps I know hear   I was talking to Jackie Veitch & E.Hillman & they said they would write to you also. There is quite a number of us from Doncaster & round about,& we take it in turns to visit one & other. So you can see we are having a good time. We also have some Germans prismions hear & they have to work. There were Australian Gardin them & they had to take them off & put Tomies on , for there would have been some doin for the German’s are swines to geer and .sneer.. One of our chaps said to one of them  By--we are given it to you’s—now. And one of them said we give it to you’s in Belgium, most of them have been captured since the first of the war. & some of them can talk very good English. They thought that there was no England left,& London was a heap of ashes & that the British fleet was brokenup, that’s the news in Germany. I don’t think they will send many more Zep’s over London, for we are getting to strong for them. There are lots of raids we never know they only get as far as the coast, now and then one sneeks through.
 If there is a raid on the people get warning in the afternoon,  so you can see what the scout’s are doing, you can hear them coming miles off. And the people don’t trouble till they hear the shots& and then they tumble out of bed & into the streets. Most of the big places have  bomb net’s over them. I just missed seeing them the other week the time the one was brought down. two of my mates seen it come down and all. I was down the week before, so my luck was out. I went& had a look at were some of the bombs had fell. The places are built up nearly as quick as they fall. London is in darkness of a night bar the skys they lightened up by the searchlights. Well Mr. Goodson I will now close trusting all is in best of health. P.S. You must exquise this scribble & mistakes as its War Time.
From Your’s Truly, Jack Hardidge




Letter No 3. Page1. 25th September.
Salisbury Plains
Pte A.J. Hardidge
Head .Quarters
3rd AustralianPioneer Batt
AiF
3rd Division, On active Service 

Dear Mr. Goodson
I now take the pleasure of writing you a few lines, I was very pleased to hear that you received the cards I sent from Cape Town   We had a splendid trip over, and what I have seen of England is very pretty, London is a wonderful place   I have just about been all over London it is what I call a double City   There seems to me to be as many people under the ground as on top, they have under ground trains, witch they call Tube’s. The people seemed to me to be very lazy one time, they go from one platform to another in lifts or moveing stairs.   I forget what the right name of  them, but you either stand one the top step,and they take you to the bottom or top & one has to be careful how they step off

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I put in some time watching the people go up and down, if they don’t take you down quick enough you can walk down or up, I seen a lot of Australians step off with the wrong foot, & then the both feet would go from under them & Well Mr Goodson it would take me some time to tell you all, but this will give you some ida,I also went up the London Tower, & all the great places ,& by going into all these places you can see from the oldest history. I will now tell a little bit about the people in England. I think we were all lost from when we got off the train at Waterloo till we made up our minds to find our places we were stoping at   if we asked anybody were a serton place was they would stand and think for a long while & say I realy don’t know.   The John’s are the only one’s that can tell you anything, I have been talking to plenty of people that don’t live so very far out from London & and they have never seen London. The English People make to mutch of wee  Aust. And it seems to me if we speak to them, they think it’s a honnor. The people don’t seem to take any notice of any other soldier but a Australian. I think most of the girls are looking for a trip to Australia as they say it .

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 They talk about it takes 3 English soldier’s to make one Australian, well it takes 12 girls to make a one Aust-girl. England is a wonderful place, the old Dart as we call it. But the young Dart for mine. We are about two Hours & a half ride in the train from London, & twenty four hours trip to the front. I have meet a lot of chaps I know hear   I was talking to Jackie Veitch & E.Hillman & they said they would write to you also. There is quite a number of us from Doncaster & round about,& we take it in turns to visit one & other. So you can see we are having a good time. We also have some Germans prismions hear & they have to work. There were Australian Gardin them & they had to take them off & put Tomies on , for there would have been some doin for the German’s are swines to geer and .sneer.. One of our chaps said to one of them  By--we are given it to you’s—now. And one of them said we give it to you’s in Belgium, most of them have been captured since the first of the war. & some of them can talk very good English. They thought that there was no England left,& London was a heap of ashes & that the British fleet was brokenup, that’s the news in Germany. I don’t think they will send many more Zep’s over London, for we are getting to strong for them. There are lots of raids we never know they only get as far as the coast, now and then one sneeks through.

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 If there is a raid on the people get warning in the afternoon,  so you can see what the scout’s are doing, you can hear them coming miles off. And the people don’t trouble till they hear the shots& and then they tumble out of bed & into the streets. Most of the big places have  bomb net’s over them. I just missed seeing them the other week the time the one was brought down. two of my mates seen it come down and all. I was down the week before, so my luck was out. I went& had a look at were some of the bombs had fell. The places are built up nearly as quick as they fall. London is in darkness of a night bar the skys they lightened up by the searchlights. Well Mr. Goodson I will now close trusting all is in best of health. P.S. You must exquise this scribble & mistakes as its War Time.
From Your’s Truly
Jack. Hardidge



Letter No4. July 18th1917
A.A.M.C Training Depot. Park House England

Dear Sir, Just a line to let you know that I am still alive & well as this leaves me at present & I hope that you are enjoying the best of health. I have had a pretty good spin here
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in Blighty but I have come to the end of my teather as the saying goes & by the time that you receive this note I suppose that I will be well up ????? the shells again. I tried really hard to get a job here in one of the hospitals but there was not ???? doing as they have got a jolly lot of chaps here that came over under age and they are giving them all the jobs out of the firing line otherwise I would have got a job.
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 But I will go back and have another look at Fritz & I might have the luck to get a slight hit and get back to this country again. I see by the papers over here that any member of the A.I.F. who has served 1,000 days can get furlough to Ausy if he can get another recruit to volunteer to come over and take his place. It is a pretty good idea and I would like to get someone to take my place but there does not seem much chance my way but perhaps some kind endividigal will step into my place. We are having very funny weather over here now it is supposed to be summer & it has been raining for the last week. Things seem to be at a standstill over on the front now & to me the end seems as far off as ever. There is not much other news to tell so I will close Hoping to hear from you soon  I remain  yours sincerely     Ken Graham



Letter No 5
Egypt April 23rd 1916

Dear Mr. Goodson,
Just a few lines to let you know that I am still well hoping you are the same, and knew you would be very pleased to hear from me , althow we are not allowed to write much news. I have not seen any of the boys from out our way yet, I think they have all gone away but some of them may be here yet & as it is a very big camp it is a hard job to find them. I spent Good Friday on guard but we never seen any hot cross buns, and this is the way I am spending Sunday, we are having big sports on Tuesday it is called Anzac day 25 April the day the boys landed.it is a holiday althrough the camp and it will be a big day. Well I think this is all I have to say at present I will close with love to all. I remain yours
Loving pupil Rupert

Address 11 Reeforcements  of 23 Battallion Egypt or Elsewhere



Letter no 6
France July 22nd  16
Dear Mr. Goodson, Your very welcome interesting letter dated May 25th reached me a couple of days ago- many thanks for same-I have received 25 letters this week- two dated March 3rd, so I have had a great time reading all the news- makes one feel that he is not so far from home after all. Many times I have “been going” to write you a few lines  but hearing from Alma that you hear of my doings and where abouts frequently from home, has made me rather dilatory in writing you direct.
I’ll just give you a few lines of my “travels” since June 18th.On that date we said fare-well to the sands of Egypt and I can assure you we didn’t shed any tears when we pulled out from port of embarkation- a fellow that wants more than a 6 months feed of sand & more than 6 flies in his tea at once is a bit of a glutton. Had a very calm & uneventful trip of 5 days across the water & no “ tin fish” troubled us. Censorship forbids the mentioning of any ports, towns, river etc that we pass or call at but you can guess where we disembarked.
About 20 of our Battery were left at the port a couple of days to unload our wagons etc. which came across on a different transport, so we had a chance to see part of the town but not the main part. Loaded our gear on trucks & we rode on the same trucks- we asked to be allowed to ride on the open trucks( in preference to carriages ) so that we could see everything that was to be seen on our journey. At 10 pm we started on the 53 hours journey- hundreds of miles-I dossed under a gun limber ; Temple Crouch and I only were on one truck so we had heaps of room but by jove it was rough lying down -there was only about 3 tons weight on springs capable of carrying 20 tons,-still as soldiers will- we slept and about 3.30 am were wakened for breakfast- the train had stopped at a station were  hot water was ready for us. From that time till about 10 pm on both days we posted ourselves up in the limbers and gazed in admiration at the magnificent country the whole time,- every inch of it was grand. Down South which of course is noted for its wines, we passed thousands of acres of vineyards, well cultivated & in many instances trained up 6 feet brick walls,on the tops of which a little 2 feet “roof”of red tiles is built,- to keep the frosts off the young shoots I suppose
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Some places were a network of these walls, so you can imagine how well they looked and every back yard is in itself a small vine-yard. For miles and miles we sped along a huge river , grand river flats & at the back great mountains- magnificent scenery it was. Round the hills we wound & through great long tunnels- a couple of which took us eight minutes to travel through- & then we would strike the same river again & more beautiful hills -then on past miles of high swaying crops very full of grain everywhere in France-and fields with “meadow “ hay high and thick & bright red poppies just as thick-one would think they had been sewn-they make the fields look lovely. The holdings in France are in most cases small but every inch -regardless of the grade- that Mr Frenchman possesses he puts under cultivation- even on the mountain sides.vines are grown.
On the farms etc, not a man of military age was to be seen- old men,boys girls& women of all ages were working away-thinning ,tying & hoeing potatoes, strawberries & in fact doing everything that needs doing. Saw one girl driving a reaping machine & another very old lady ,building a load of hay
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on the wagon in great fashion & the old chap picking it up. These people gave us a great reception as we rolled along. Every 15 or 20 miles we passed through villiages of various sizes & through several large towns -at one stage we were within 15 miles of Paris. The second day’s travelling was just as interesting as the first for miles we were travelling along another big river and through tunnel after tunnel, and past huge forests of pine trees which the French have planted at some time. Every building is of brick or stone, most of them have red tiled roofs- the remainder are thatched- one never sees an iron roof in France- and always high gables. These places dotted about in the hills & valleys with high poplars and olive trees etc surrounding them, give the whole place a very picturesque appearance  Some of the towns appeared to be very fine , but of course we only had a passing glance. I was quite sorry when at 3 am on the third morning we arrived at our detraining station,-another big seaport town. We unloaded our gear and then took an electric train to our camping ground about six miles out- stayed there for a short time & then entrained again on another long journey

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This time only about 20 hours, but as enjoyable as the last. Detrained and drove about 6 miles through grand country to our Billet -a big hay barn with the farm house adjoining, at which we were able to purchase bread, butter ,fresh milk & eggs. Slept on a hay bed -very comfortably. There we had a couple of showers of rain & for a few days things were very mucky . There was a decent village close by so we always kept the “pantry” well stocked. I’ve been in 4 different billets- from our last we were journeyed 20 miles by road to take up a firing position, just in front of a village that has been ,& was still being  heavily shelled. We stayed there a short time & sent Fritz  over our “compliments’ at intervals day and night, then at dark one night we moved closer up to the firing line & worked all that night & the whole of the next day concealing our position as best we could. As soon as we were settled we started shelling & got many quite close enough in return- most of the firing is done at night, the trenches are lit up with star & flare shells. A couple of days ago we took part in a very heavy bombardment- I was on the gun from

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6pm. Till 6am.the following morning & in that time we sent over about 400 shells from our gun .And every gun- all sizes- in the vicinity was doing the same, bombs were exploding & rifle & machine gun bullets cracking & whizzing through the air- the din was fearful. Our boys  (Inf)  made a big advance that night, but unfortunately  were not strong enough to hold the trenches they had rushed and captured, against the heavy German Artillery fire that was poured at them & so were forced to retire, losing heavily on their way back to their own trenches- the enemy had fearful losses. My old Battalion suffered severely so I consider myself fortunate having transferred to the.??. Temple has just told me that Joe Beale was wounded in the leg, but don’t make this public if you haven’t already heard, as we are not certain. Harry Chivers too we hear was badly wounded & and unfortunately another Templestowe boy- Bert Johnston was killed. Must draw to a close now Mr. Goodson -Temple who wishes to be remembered, & I are both very well and quite happy in our present surroundings. Trust that the old scholars answered the “call” & that your concert was as big a success as past ones. Kindest regards to Mrs. Goodson & yourself yrs very sincerely.     Harold B Clay

The school children might like to hear these lines so just as you wish. Remember me to all.



Letter 7
France 7/10/16

Dear Mr. Goodson 
I received your welcome letter yesterday and it has been the  two months wandering around  trying to find me, it had thirteen postal marks on it this is my third letter I have wrote to you one from Egypt and one from England and this one I hope you received them alright  the one I wrote from England was after I had four day leave in London but four days there is only like two hours in Melbourne.I was buzzing about like a bee in that time that at times I got lost and taking things into consideration I had of ????? look around and if I ever have the luck to get there again I will go a ?????????. Well Mr. Goodson it is close on three month since I joined the 3 Battalion in France and the only boys from out our way  I have run across is H? Zerbe ,Elc??Frank Song????. Chief ???? Tom Toogood is about here but I haven’t had the luck to strike him yet we will be out of the trenches again for a while so will look him up .I get a good bit of news from home as I am getting my letters through alright & Mr. Clap writes to me now and again stating the price of butter ,eggs etc. and the girl is not worrying about me so it’s alright before I close  this few lines I will give you my address. C Comp.23 Battallion as we are told anywhere as long as it’s not the beginning or the end ???
Well Mr. Goodson I will close hoping to be remembered to all. Yours sincerely Rupert. Please excuse paper, mistakes etc.





Letter 8
France Aug 19th 1916
Dear Mr. Goodson I received your welcome letter dated May 26th. And I was pleased to hear that you were in the best of health. I am in the best of health as this leaves me  My Mother told me that you had written to me but the letter was delayed “ but better late than never”. You will know by this time that we are in action here & I have just came out of the trenches for a spell. It was very warm while it lasted I can tell you hotter than it ever was on the Peninsular. Our boys have taken a great part in the “ Poy Push” & have done well. The fighting here is a lot fiercer than it has ever been on this front & we are pushing the Huns here back little by little and are getting them well beaten but I can’t tell you much about the war but I can tell you things are going ( tray long) I could tell you terrible things that I have seen here and if I have the good fortune to get home safe I will only be too pleased to tell you anything that may interest you. I am keeping a dairy and I have some very interesting articales in it .It is 2 years today since I went into camp but it seems much longer to me I can tell you . I hope that your “Red Cross concert ” was a success and I wish I was home to witness it as I always took a great interest in the school concerts ever since I used to take part in them . I suppose you have heard of Harry’s death he was killed in action before this battle begun he was a game one I can tell you. We have lost two now in our family but they died for the freedom of others I was very sorry to hear of Mr. Symon’s death he ought never to have joined but he had the pluck & that’s what we want to win the war. I am very glad that so many of the young chaps have joined and are coming away I am glad that you enjoyed some of the postcards that I sent home ???? so long in Egypt I had seen all there was to be seen and I could keep you interested for hours  telling you about their customs & the land .I have seen a great lot of France since we landed here & and it is a fine country dotted here and there with big towns & and the villages are very close here  . We are never in tents here we are always Billited in farm houses or in the peoples purite houses and we get on very well with the French people  All the men are at the war & the girls do all the work & they have to work I can tell you you can see them ploughing bringing in the harvest. This is about all the news this time . Remember me to all the people in Doncaster.
I remain your old pupil Ken Graham.  P.S. A letter from you will always be welcome. Ken






Letter no 9
Hurdcott Camp
Salisbury Plains 
November25th 1916
Dear Mr. Goodson I take this opportunity of writing to you ,as I feel shure you would be pleased to hear from one of your old scholars. It was my intention to call, and see you, and the old school before I left, but our Company left suddenly ,leaving me almost insufficient time to say goodbye to my relations. I embarked on the “Troop Ship Shropshire” 25th Sept. & I will never forget the time I stood in the bow of the ship watching the Victorian Coast slip away behind after we passed through the heads. We had a beautiful smooth trip. Durban was our first port of call, where we had two and one half days leave ashore, while the ship was coaling, so I had sufficient time to have a good look around the town. We left Durban on the 18th October, and on the 19th. We passed quit close to Port Elizabeth, with it’s lighthouse, from where the “ Warratar” was last seen. All the next day, before we sighted the “Cape of Good Hope” we continued quit close to the coast. It was wonderful to see the geat lofty mountains, that seem to come strait down into the sea. One huge mountain especially had five distinct peeks, that showed their heads above a long white cloud. On the 20th we steamed into Cape Town, which is almost surrounded by huge- dark mountains, that seem to be trying to push the Town into the sea . We only stayed one day at the Cape .The “Table Mountain” was a wonderful sight as seen first thing  Saturday morning the 21st. Oct. when a long, white cloud lay along it, and just as we left , it cleared away, showing the mountain’s long flat, even top, that gives it it’s name.  Our next call  after leaving Cape Town ,was at Wakar, a French naval Station, where we took a big gun on board for defence in case of attack by submarine. The only rough weather we struck was in the Bay of Biscay where great waves like mountains, were coming over the ship’s side . We arrived at Plymouth Sound Nov 18th.,&  entrained at Plymouth & had a journey of seven hours to Wool a small village in the south of England. From there we marched into Bovington Camp & after a rest of seven days , shifted to Hurdcott Camp in Salisbury Plains where we are doing solid training& marching long distances with full pack up. I am enjoying perfect health and feeling strong, & fit, & ready to go to the trenches any time.     Yours sincerely   Nohby B Hardidge 






Letter No 10
France 26th -1-1917
Dear Mr Goodson,
I received your very welcome letter today & and as I am in a fairly warm billet and in a dashing spirit – I take very much pleasure in dropping you these few lines to let you know I am keeping well, up to the present, we had a little route march today, we stopped for a spell and there were a few little swamps about frozen with the cold weather we have had lately and thick with ice. we put in a good half hour trying to scate, it was good sport after being in the trenches. I met Fred Toogood and found him a few weeks ago, but met very few from out our ( way ) as yet I heard K Graham was slightly gassed, I don’t know for sure although I happened to be on the same front at the time I can just remember the gas shells alright. Well Mr Goodson I cannot speak this French language, I can only speak three or words that’s my limit. & as for frogs and snails they are not for me. Well I am not much of a hand at writing I am a one page artist so will close hoping to see you all again 
I remain
 yours sincerely
 Rupert .
P.S. that Address is quite right.





Letter No 11,
Candahar Barracks, Tidworth England.  April 20th 1917
It gives me much pleasure to take the pen to write to you as being one of your old scholars I feel it my duty to write you and in doing so it reminds me very much of times gone by when I would have to write my home lessons. I hope this reaches you and Mrs. Goodson in the best of health as it leaves me at present. It is now about 2 months that I have been in England and I am not climatized yet. The weather is very cold here, especially when I arrived it has snowed a great deal. & it was quite a novelty to see the snow falling & it’s very pretty too. The weather apart from being cold is quite queer. As it can be raining hard & in an hour it will be real fine, later on it will change to snow. & then peircing cold winds. The winds on Salisbury Plains are some cold. Tidworth here is on the outskirts of the plains. It is 70 seventy miles from London. It is only a small village but there are plenty of Barracks & quite a large number of troops. Yesterday the King received about (35,000 thirty five thousand) Australians from different camps on Salisbury Plains. There was Light Horse, Infantry, Artillery, and other units of the army there .We had to march past and the King took the salute at the Saluting base. All the Light Horsemen were mounted. The whole affair was a splendid & impressive sight. It was something added to my experience as it was the first time I have seen the King. Next week I shall go on four days leave, I shall visit London the city of wonder & will inspect all the old Historic places such as the Tower where the old Queens and Kings were beheaded. Chaps who seen it say the chopping block and axes are still there. Buckingham Palace. The Cathederal & such places. After I come back from there I shall reckon I know quite a lot. I haven’t seen much of England yet, but I don’t like the place much, there is no place like Sunny Australia. I am having a good time of it .The quarters I am in are very comfortable the drill is new in some respects, the food is light but good ,our beds are good  and I have plenty of blankets, so taking it by the whole, things are not too bad. The trip over was a pleasant one, it took 10 ten weeks to complete, as we had 14 fourteen days at Cape Town 2 two days at  Durban & 4 days at Seirra Leone- At Durban and Cape Town we got leave each day and seen all over the places of interest- Australians are thought a lot of at Cape Town , but not so much at Durban. Both places are very pretty & quaint. The black population in those cities, seem to cast a dark side to things, as it were. Easter time was very quiet here. Summer has commenced & daylight saving has started which makes a big difference this side of the world . Well Mr. Goodson I find news very scarse so I must conclude hoping that you will write in return    I will remain
Yours Sinscerely  Norman A Crossman
Address—No-2082 Tpr N.A. Crossman
13th Australian Light Horse
Australian Imperial Force 
--Abroad --


Letter 12
France 18/2/18
 Pte- A J. H
No31
Dear Mr. Goodson
I received your most welcome letter, & glad to hear that you are well again, as I have heard from home, that you had been very ill.
It is really wonderful how we Aussie’s keep in good health, & how one gets used to things. I always hear how you are, from home & I often think of my old School day’s.
And here tonight I have got the best of chum’s all good sticker’s. you must excuse my slang & scribble, Well Mr. Goodson Soldiering is like a second life in several way’s. I think sometimes that we are no more that School boys again; How nice it will be when the  war is over  and we are free.
There are several boy’s in same Batt from Doncaster and round about. Felise the barber & S. Barker the black smith, & two or three from Box Hill . S Barker was wounded but he is back with us again, he got a bad knock, but he is tre-bon now. It was very sad about Willie Rust & Erich Hillman & I know from what I heard about Erich he was a dinkum soldier & game, he was recommended once. I have met a lot of old chum’s over here.,still have a lot more to find.
While on Blighty furlough I met C.Watt’s on his leave as well. After seeing W. Watt’s some time before. We do have some talk of old time’s when we meet .
I find it much easier to talk than to write but we are always looking for letter’s.
I don’t like the Belgiums & the French, I don’t know too much about them,but I am swetting on going to have a look at gay Parie I must think about  closing as it’s time I went to sleep so trusting  that this will find you & all in the best of health,  as this  leaves me in the best of health Please remember me to all & my people. Close with kindest regard’s
From you old School boy Jack







Football Boot-studder

Needs research: Details of boot-studder's role (from earliest time and changes with boot technology)


Many occupations are transformed and often dissappear with changes in technology and social practice.

One fascinating but obscure job if the "boot-studder".

This job entailed ????????????

One boot-studder, Matthew Wilmot Chapman, uncle of current member Graham Chapman, was the boot-studder for the Australian Rules Football Premiership from 1955 onwards.   

Melbourne Football Club, VFL Olympic Year and Australian Premiers 1956.  (A Chapman pictured in third row from front, Third person from left.) Source: Graham Chapman.
Melbourne Football Club, VFL Olympic Year, and Australian Premiers 1956.  (A Chapman pictured in the third row from the front, Third person from the left.) Source: Graham Chapman. 
ALLAN STUDIOS, COLLINGWOOD
BACK ROW –  R. Johnson, K.Melville(Vice Capt.), R.Dowsing, C.Williams, K.Carlon, D.Rattary, A.Webb,
THIRD ROW – H.Phingsthorne,  G. Pierce, M. Chapman, W.K. Scott, W.Adams, H.McPherson, L. Green, F. Fraser, C. Wilson, J. Mc. Laughlin, R. Edwards, L.D. Altera, K. Chalmers, S.A. Brownbill, N.H. King
SECOND ROW – J.C. Loughery, L.S. Millis, G. Pinfold, G.Kerr, G.Case, D.Williams, I. Thorogood, L. Mithen, T. Johnson, G. Mc. Govern. D Cordner, T.Gleeson, T.Mountain, R.Atkinson, P.Marquis, C.Laidlaw, B.Collopy, E.C.H. Taylor, J.P.Mc Grath
FRONT ROW:-- K. Carrol, R. Lane, I. Mc. Lean, I. Ridley, J. Beckwith, B. Dixon, R. Barassi, J.H. Cardwell (Secretary)
A.E. Chadwick(Chairman), N. Smith (Coach), N.Mc. Mahen(Captain), S.Spencer, T. Bull, J. Sandral, F. Adams
ABSENT:-- P.Cook, J.Lord, B.Crameri, P.Tossol, D.Jones
FINAL SCORES: MELBOURNE 17 goals 19 behind 121 points defeated COLLINGWOOD 6 goals 12 behind 48 points – V.F.L. Record

He was born in Main Road (now Doncaster Road), Doncaster (probably the family home on the corner of Frederick St and Doncaster Road. His grandmother Ellen was a witness to the birth. 

SECOND SCHEDULE
BIRTHS in the district of Doneastin in the state. Registered by Edwind J? Symons?
CHILD
(1) No. 1214
(2) When and Where: April 7th 1910; Main Road, Doncaster, County of Burke
(3) Name and Whether Parent or Not: Mathew Willmot? (Not Present)
(4) Sex: Male
FATHER: 
(5)
(1) Name and Surname, Rank or Profession of the father: Alexander Chapman, Builder
(2) Age: 47 years
(3) Birthplace: Templestowe
When and Where Married:  April 28th 1909. Moe, Gippsland
Previous Issue Living and  deceased: (Previous Marriage) September 13th 1885; Templestowe (No issue)
MOTHER
(7)
(1) Name and Maiden Surname of Mother: Clara Ellen Chapman    
(2) Age: 33 Years
(3) Birth Place: Clunes, Victoria
(Column 5 should read 47 yearsE?J?Symons? Registrar 25/4/10
INFORMANT
(8)
Signature, Description and Residence: A Chapman; Father; Main Road, Doncaster
WITNESSES
(9)
1. Nil
2. Mrs. Ellen Smith
3. Mr. H. Hart
REGISTRAR
(10)
When registered and where:  2 th April; Doncaster
(11)
Signature of registrar:  Edwin J Symons
(12)
Name if added after registration of birth: (check mark)



Matthew Chapman: Died 9 August 1977 at Sandringham.

In 1918, he moved his family to Brighton (1918 'DONCASTER NOTES.', Camberwell and Hawthorn Advertiser (Vic. : 1914 - 1918), 15 February, p. 4. , viewed 23 Sep 2021, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article153611223)

He worked at the Sandringham Football Club (VFA).

In 1947, Matthew moved to the Melbourne Football Club with Len Toyne (who had led Sandringham Football Club to the 1946 VFA Premiership as Captain Coach with Matt as his boot studder).

Matt had a shed in his home at Arthur Street, Sandringham, just a good drop kick from Beach Oval where Sandringham played. In the shed he made boot stops out of leather to ensure the players at Sandringham and Melbourne had a firm grip of the ground. In those days, there were lots of muddy and wet grounds in the middle of winter and the players needed good stops.

Matt Chapman appears in the 5 Melbourne football Club Premiership photos from 1955 to 1960. 

Source: Graham Chapman, Kalamunda, personal communication 2022. Graham is the son of  Lindsay Graham Chapman 1918-2005.  Lindsay was Matthew Wilmot Chapman's brother.

Further reading:

88 Leeds St, Doncaster East



Victorian Heritage Database Report Report generated 11/06/23

88 Leeds Street, Doncaster East



Included in Heritage Overlay
Heritage Overlay Numbers.  HO102

Of regional significance as a rare surviving (but typical) Early Victorian timber farmhouse with later alterations not. detracting from its form and with important historical associations with Williams.

Heritage Study/Consultant:  Manningham - Manningham Heritage Study Review, Context Pty Ltd, 2006;  Manningham - Doncaster & Templestowe Heritage Study Additional. Historical Research, Carlotta Kellaway, 1994;  Hermes Number 22485

Historical Australian Themes;  Local Themes;  5.03 - Eight hour pioneer settlement

Condition Fair

Integrity Altered

Physical Description 1

Associations:  W.S. Williams

Online http://planningschemes.dpcd.vic.gov.au/

https://vhd.heritagecouncil.vic.gov.au/places/22485. as at June 2023.



88 Leeds Street, Doncaster East. Google Maps 2007


88 Leeds Street, Doncaster East. Google Maps May2021








Days of Orchards and Lakes

THE area bounded by Weatherby Rd, Cassowary St, Blackburn Rd and Koonung Creek was originally the orchard of William Sydney Williams.  Mr Williams was a leader, a kind and gentle man who never said a nasty word. Except, so his grandson Roy told me, when his eldest son John Sydney put a fire cracker in the outdoor toilet while his mother was in there.

In the 1870s “W.S.” helped campaign for a school in East Doncaster, the children from there having to attend Pastor Schramm’s in Doncaster Rd, just west of where the municipal offices are now — a long walk for those living in the Blackburn Rd/Reynolds Rd area. To ascertain probable enrolment numbers for a feasibility study, an official of the Education Department visited every home and noted on a map the number of children in each.  After years of campaigning, the tiny Deep Creek school opened on the Andersons Creek Rd - Reynolds Rd corner.

Mr Williams was a Shire councillor from 1884-87 and again in 1893, wrote and lectured on fruit growing and became a fruit judge at inter-state shows. He died in 1912.

John Sydney Williams married cousin Amy Toogood from over the creek who bore 11 children — the last when John was aged 60. As the younger ones grew, John Sydney became to frail to work the orchard and so it fell to his older sons, John Thomas and Roy William, to help support them. John worked the home orchard while Roy went out to work for “the enemy” — as he called other orchardists.

In the 1920s the Williams family fortunes began to fall and John had to mortgage the orchard.

The eastern hill (within the boundary of Leeds St, Maxia Rd, Blackburn Rd and the creek) and part of the Leeds St (west) land was sold by the bank for two thousand pounds.

Mr William’s eldest daughter Rose had married William Elder and made their family home and orchard on the northern section of the eastern hill.  Now the Beverey Hills Primary School stands on what was their land and when this was first built, the Elder’s fine brick homestead was still nearby. It was demolished in 1959 for the small shopping centre in Rosella St.

When the bank sold the Williams’ land, the largest holding south of Elders’, including the lake that covered the present Renshaw St, was bought by the Gedye family.

The family marketed the water lilies, and from this enterprise grew today’s Gedye Water Gardens and Fountains and the Gedye fibreglass compost bin, the first of its kind.

The dam was demolished when the land was sold in the 1960s for subdivision.


Source: YESTERyear, Doncaster and Templestowe News,  February 10 1993






The dam in Renshaw St


As you travel down the big dip in Renshaw St, East Doncaster, you descend into what was once the biggest dam in Victoria.  For two years around 1891 every orchardist in Doncaster, working with bullock teams and scoops, helped William Sydney Williams build this 14 ha dam.

It flooded the area south-west of Leeds St from just behind Williams' original homestead (still standing at 88 Leeds St) to what is now Peter St with 100 million litres of water seven metres deep.

Once during the dam building the wall broke, the welled up Koonung-Koonung Creek poured out over the lemon orchard and the men had to start again.

The dam's bank was so wide it was used as a road. A horse continually walked round and around it cutting chaff while others plodded by transporting lemons.

Local people called it a lake. In the middle was an island with a palm tree; fish were caught in it and on the surface floated water lilies.

One of the first steam pumping-plants in the dis-trict forced water up from the lake to a small holding dam at the eastern side of what is now 71 Renshaw St, from where it was siphoned to the Leeds St hill top to flow on, by a system of pipes and taps devised by Williams himself, to his 'eastern hill'.  This extended in that direction to Blackburn Rd and north-south between the creek and Cassowary St. 

Westwards, the 80ha property was bounded by Wetherby Rd.

'W.S.W.' was a 19-year-old sailor from St Ansells, Ienby (Editor:  Possible Temby ?), Pembrokeshire, South Wales, when in 1853 he deserted ship in Melbourne with four shillings and six- pence in his pocket.  He found work with Thomas Toogood just south of the creek in Box Hill, two years later marrying 16 year old Anne Toogood. They started their dynasty in a log cabin.  Seven of the 14 children Anne had, died.  Two were buried around the busy street roundabout by the Leeds/ Cassowary St corner store.  
Sydney Williams was the first to grow citrus trees in Doncaster with pears, plums, cherries and strawberries as well.


'BOATING on Gedye's lily pond 1930s'. Picture courtesy of eric Collyer (replaced by image from Gedye Family Collection in 2023)


But in the 1920s the Williams' family fortunes began to fail and had to go on the bank'.
The eastern hill and part of the land west of Leeds St was sold by the bank for two thousand pounds.
The section of this land, on which the Beverely Hills Primary School was later built, had been worked and lived upon for years by W.S.W.'s eldest daughter, Rose and her husband William Elder, whose beautiful brick homestead was demolished in 1959 for the Rosella St shops.

The largest holding, including the lake, was bought by Gedye and the lake became Gedye's lily pond.
And so a new industry began. The Gedye family marketed the water lilies and from this enterprise grew to today's Gedye Water Gardens and fibreglass pools and the Gedye compost bin.
Gedye St now runs along the site of the famous dam.

The dam was still there in the 1960s when that land was subdivided.  The (then) Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Works declared it a danger and health hazard and ordered it destroyed.
Workmen tore the bank apart and just let the water go and out with the water flowed big 3000 gram eels!  The subdividers had difficulty putting in storm water drains because of the accumulation of 60 years of silt nearly four metres deep.   Whenever we have heavy rain I wonder about all this silt under the modern houses in the dip of Renshaw St.


Source: Doncaster & Templestowe News May 27 1992 p19 Yesteryear